Young Man. I HEAR there is another RIGHTS OF MAN by
Spence , that goes farther than Paine's.
Old M. Yet it goes no farther than it ought.
Y.M. I understand it suffers no private Property in Land,
but gives it all to the Parishes.
O.M. In so doing it does right, the earth was not made for
Individuals.
Y.M. But people of all conditions have been so accustomed to think
that the completion of all earthly felicity consists in the possession of
Landed Propriety, that it is not likely they will generally be brought to give
up the darling hopes of one time or other possessing a snug Estate.
O.M. It is true, if there were no injustice attending the state of
a Landlord, it is the most desirable and enviable state in the world, even
infinitely more so than that of a King, or any Placeman or Pensioner
whatsoever.
Y.M. It is indeed. Every body knows that well. For the Landlord is
entirely supreme, independent, and arbitrary, in his own Domains, hence the
title Lord, and nothing binds him but his own leases, which
he for his own interest grants.
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He is in no danger of losing his
revenues, for he pays himself in a most haughty and lordly manner, without
process, and without hardly condescending to ask. And when his rents are
brought to him on the very hour they are due, his Dignity will not permit him
to be thankful.
O.M. Why, I find you are at least half a Spensonian: You
understand something of the nature of the enemy; and I dare say we shall not
differ much in opinion.
Y.M. I have heard, read, and seen enough of their oppressions to
make me wish them at an end, if possible.
O.M. Whether it be possible we shall see by and by. But for the
reasons before-mentioned, unless it be necessary that there should be in a
State Freemen and Slaves, lordly Men, and mean Men,
Landlords cannot be suffered.
Y.M. But most people believe it would be unjust to deprive Landed
Men of their Property, as many of them have purchased their Estates.
O.M. Landed Property always was originally acquired, either by
conquest or encroachment on the common Property of Mankind. And as those
public Robbers did never show any degree of conscience or moderation and
enslaved for ages, should in the day of reclamation, through an effeminate and
foolish tenderness, neglect the precious opportunity of recovering at once the
whole of their Rights.
Y.M. But I am speaking of the seeming hardships of depriving
modern Purchasers of their Property.
O.M. Those modern Purchasers are not ignorant of the manner in
which Landed Property was originally obtained, neither are they sorry for it,
nor for any other imposition by which they can get Revenue.
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And every one
knows that buying stolen Goods is as bad as stealing.
Y.M. You are entirely right. The conduct of our rich Men is not such
as to create much respect for their Property. The whole of their study
is to create Monopolies and to raise Rents and Revenues; and, like the
Grave, their endless cry is, Give! Give!
O.M. And what was originally obtained by the Sword, they determine
to detain by the Sword. Are not they and their Minions now in Arms under the
name of Yeomanry, Volunteers &c? And what means the inveterate War
commenced by the Aristocracy of the World against France? They know that
Mankind once enlightened will not brook their lordliness, nor be content with
their Rights by piece-meal; therefore they exert every nerve to prevent light
from spreading, and the union of the People.
Y.M. Indeed there cannot be any thing said for them. They exhibit
to us too plainly all the properties and practices of Robbers. Plunder, spoil
and contributions they will at all events have though their ill-gotten Lands
should swim with blood; fully declaring themselves the true Heirs and
Successors of the ancient Nimrods from whom they hold.
O.M. Then let all men say, Spence has done right in rooting up
such a combination of Spoilers, and setting the world free from all exactions,
imposts, and abuses, at once and for ever.
Y.M. It is amazing that Paine and the other Democrats should level
all their Artillery at Kings, without striking like Spence at this root of
every abuse and of every grievance.
O.M. The reason is evident: they have no chance of being Kings; but
many of them are already, and the rest foolishly and wickedly hope to be
sometime or other Landlords, lesser or greater.
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Y.M. But do you think mankind will ever enjoy any tolerable degree
of Liberty and Felicity, by having a Reform in Parliament, if Landlords be
still suffered to remain?
O.M. You should first ask if the Landed Interest will let you have
a reform, which they will take care to prevent. For a Convention or Parliament
of the People would be at eternal War with the Aristocracy. But granting they
should so far forget their interest, they would soon recollect their mistake,
and set about their true interest again, which is to counteract every species
of public good. And full well are they furnished with every requisite for the
diabolical Work. The perpetual influx of wealth by their Rents without toil or
study, leaves them at full Liberty and Leisure to plot, and supplies them also
with the means of fighting successfully against the interests of the working
part of the Community, and turn their labours to their own advantage.
Y.M. Yes, it is natural to expect that whether in the legislature
or out of it, their whole study will be, under every kind of Government, to
encrease the prices of what their Estates produce, that their rents may rise.
What shall we then account such a body of People, whose interests are only
their own, and so opposite to all others, but a public enemy, a Banditti that
must always be watched and sometimes resisted.
O.M. There you are wrong with your watching and resisting. Who is
to watch and resist? Must not all the rest of the world do something for their
Bread? And are they not disarmed by the Game Laws, awed by the Military, and
by Monopolies, State Tricks, Rents and Taxes reduced to continual Drudgery and
Starvation? How many days do you think such a brood of Beggars could maintain
themselves in a state of Insurrection against their Oppressors?
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They must away
to their work again. The cries of the famished Families break up their
Campaigns before they are well begun, and they must again return to the yoke,
like other starved animals, for mere subsistence.
Y.M. O hopeless state of mankind!
O.M. No, it is not yet hopeless, though the enemy like a numerous
Army, be garrisoned and quartered every where among us, and have all the
strong Holds, all the Arms, and every advantage that triumphant and
cruel invaders could wish for, yet will a true and universal knowledge
of Spence's plain and simple System overturn them, and sweep all their
Greatness and Lordliness away in one Day, and leave the world in
perpetual and perfect Peace.
Y.M. Some seem to apprehend the mismanagement of the Parish
Revenues, and so discourage people from thinking of that System.
O.M. That is the natural work of the Enemy, and must be expected.
But it does not become Democrats to doubt concerning it. For if men cannot
manage the Revenues and affairs of a Parish, what must they do with a State?
It is almost as absurd to answer such quibbles as to make them. How strange
that men will turn the world upside down to get the management of a Nation,
and yet pretend to despair concerning a Parish!!! It is too bad. The villainy
is too barefaced. I am weary with combatting the vile sophistry of Scoundrels
that are Oppressors, and of Scoundrels that would be Oppressors. But in
Spence's Pigs' Meat, you will find the Parish System represented in such a
variety of ways, and so plainly evidencing to every Reader, the easy and
practicable transition from this scene of Oppression and Woe, to perfect
Freedom and Felicity, that I must refer you to that incomparable Work for
complete satisfaction on the Subject.
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Y.M. I thank you. I will take the first opportunity of perusing
that excellent Book. But in the mean time, for the sake of conversation, let
us suppose that a whole Nation no matter whether America, France, Holland, or
any other, but as to England, it is entirely out of the Question, were fully
convinced of the excellence of this System, and universally wishing its
establishment, I should be glad to know the most easy method of doing so, and
with least bloodshed.
O.M. In a Country so prepared, let us suppose a few Thousands of
hearty determined Fellows well armed and appointed with Officers, and having a
Committee of honest, firm, and intelligent Men to act as a provisionary
Government, and to direct their Actions to the proper Object. If this
committee published a Manifesto or Proclamation, directing the People in every
Parish to take, on receipt thereof, immediate possession of the whole Landed
Property within their district, appointing a Committee to take charge of the
same, in the name and for the use of the Inhabitants; and that every
Landholder should immediately, on pain of Confiscation and Imprisonment,
deliver to the said parochial Committee, all Writings and Documents relating
to their Estates, that they might immediately be burnt; and that they should
likewise disgorge at the same time into the Hands of the said Committee, the
last payments received from their tenants, in order to create a parochial Fund
for immediate use, without calling upon the exhausted People. If this
Proclamation was generally attended to, the business was settled at once; but
if the Aristocracy arose to contend the matter, let the People be firm and
desperate, destroying them Root and Branch, and strengthening their hands by
the rich Confiscations. Thus the war would be carried on at the expence of the
wealthy enemy, and the
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Soldiers of Liberty beside the hope of sharing in the
future felicity of the country, being well paid, would be steady and bold. And
wherever the Lands were taken possession of by the People, (which by all means
should be as early accomplished as possible) the grand resource of the
Aristocracy, the Rents, would be cut off, which would soon reduce them to
Reason, and they would become as harmless as other men.
Y.M. If people could but thus become honest and wise enough to
cut off at once the resources of the enemy, they might soon get rid of
Oppression. But it is a pity they do not perceive the immediate and
inexpressible blessings that would infallably result from such a
Revolution.
O.M. The good Effects of such a charge, would be more exhilirating
and reviving to the hunger-bitten and despairing Children of Oppression, than
a benign and sudden Spring to the frost-bitten Earth, after a long and severe
Winter. Only think of the many millions of Rents that are now paid to those
self-created Nephews of God Almighty, the Landed Interest, which is literally
paid for nothing but to create masters. — I say only think of all this
Money, circulating among the People, and there promoting Industry and
Happiness, and all the arts and callings useful in Society; would not the
change be unspeakable? This would neither be a barren Revolution of mere
unproductive Rights, such as many contend for, nor yet a glut of sudden and
temporary Wealth as if acquired by conquest; but a continual flow of permanent
Wealth established by a System of Truth and Justice, and guaranteed by the
interest of every Man, Woman, and Child in the Nation. The Government also of
such a People could no longer be oppressive. The democratic Parishes would
take care how they suffered their Money to be lavished away upon State
speculations.
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And their Senators, who could not be Men of landed Property,
would be found to be much more honest and true to the services of their
Constituents than our now-a-days so much boasted Gentlemen of independent
Fortunes.
When a People create Landlords, they create a numerous host of hereditary
Tyrants and Oppressors, who not content with their Lordly Revenues of Rents,
seize also upon the Government, and parcel it out among themselves, and take
as enormous salaries for the Places they occupy therein, as if they were poor
Men; so that the Rents which the foolish People foolishly pay for nothing, and
the poor dull Ass the Public, become thus loaded, as it were, with two pair of
Panyers. So then, whoever will be so silly good-natured and over-generous as
to pay Rents to a set of Individuals, must not be surprized, if their Masters
by all ways and means and pretences should keep them to it, and give Scope
sufficient to their liberal propensities.
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